Getting out of there while you’ve still got a shirt on your back.

A number of developments of late concerned with Russia’s “special military operation” have signalled a ground shift in the West’s whole approach to the thing. The first was various attempts by America to open some public channels of communication with the Russians. The Biden administration is massively concerned with PR and spin, but there’s no hiding the simple fact that they’re the ones trying to initiate a dialogue with the Russians who appear not to be that interested.

Given the neo-con liberal puppeteers who hate Russia and Putin and actually run the Biden administration, there can only be one reasonable conclusion to be drawn from that. The foreign adventure of provoking a proxy war with Russia appears to be yet another foreign policy disaster. They’re beginning to realise that and trying to head it off at the pass. Putin is in no mood to help them save face and will continue to progressively degrade any Ukrainian military capacity to hurt Russia until it’s mission complete.

It is a two pronged proxy war. The first is to destroy the Russian economy, second, arm the Ukrainians to the teeth to destroy the Russian invaders. By now it’s become obvious that both prongs have failed miserably but it’s the latter that most concerns the Americans who have the intel to see what’s about to happen in the Donbass in the coming weeks if not days.

The one thing that’s of no apparent concern to America is the backlash on western Europe of the failure of the economic war via sanctions. Why should it? It really doesn’t have a substantive effect on them other than driving up prices at the pump. I’m being ironic there by the way. Too many green obsessed extremists in the administration want to price gas out of Joe Public’s range, so they’ve got no problem with that outcome. The effects of that will take some time to work their way through the economic system but it’s safe to say they’ll arrive in a timely fashion before the November mid-terms.

The quality of the current crop of leaders in western Europe and most especially the EU is appalling, but even they have noticed a recent change in the wind with regard to America and the Ukrainian quagmire. American military starting low level talks with their Russian equivalents can only suggest they’ve begun to start work on an exit strategy. They’re just about bright enough to realise America could once again bolt for the exit door and leave them holding another full chamber pot of steaming piss like they did last year with the Afghanistan withdrawal shambles.

Coincidentally, they’re starting to think over what that awkward little cuss in each of their cabinets they’ve been ignoring has been saying to them over the last three months. Sanctions against Russia can’t work and never will. Our economy is tanking because of the backlash. Inflation is starting to rage out of control and by the end of the year we’ll be facing an enraged electorate which’ll vote us out of office at the first opportunity.

It’s time to start working on their own exit strategy right now.

That’s why the heads of both Germany and France and a few assorted less notables all rang Putin directly last week. Spot the herd panic, hey? I’ve read official summaries of the conversations by the Russian foreign ministry but they were the usual Russian blend of one or two hard replies they wanted to put out there and a lot of omissions of what else was discussed.

On the other side, if the herd of triumphalist sanctions setters came away with anything, they’d have crowed about it from the rafters. Basically, they’ve been silent. Given the current situation, I think I can make a pretty accurate guess of the way each conversation went. Putin has them by the bollocks and I suspect he just squeezed them and sent them away to think it over and come back with some realistic proposals after he laid out his own demands to them.

First of all, drop these silly sanctions, you’re only hurting your own economies, not mine. Second, stop sending armaments to kill my soldiers. The Ukraine is ours, get used to the idea. Third, you’ve all found devious ways to pay for natural gas in rubles and are afraid I might insist on doing the same for oil, wheat and all the other commodities we used to supply you with in vast quantities. I still might. Fourth, I’ve already found alternative markets for the commodities I used to supply you with. China and India are already buying everything we offer and look to be voracious new customers. Resuming the usual supplies to you isn’t anything we need to do and perhaps never will, though returning all the money you stole from us might count for something.

The fifth and I think the biggest demand was intimating that distancing themselves from American foreign policy towards Russia and the Ukraine confrontation was a prerequisite to him giving them a single damn thing. The higher up the ladder you go, the more direct the negotiations become, which is why they all sloped away from their conversations with Putin with their tails between their legs. The fact that Putin hasn’t taken his foot off the military pedal since those meetings indicates that.

He’s given them some time to think it over but as the Rolling Stones’ song goes, time is on my side. As seems always, General Winter is on Russia’s side and he’s approaching Europe. Sometimes we all have found ourselves in totally untenable situations and within that context, there’s no practical response to make except getting yourself the hell out of that situation. I really can’t see much else in the way of options if they want to survive the next election cycles. Just blaming Russia and Putin for everything has already started to wear thin with electorates.

I used to have a friend who was good company to be around. A meal, a joke and a laugh with his mates on a weekend night out but after a while an unpleasant pattern developed. Nights in his company began to always end with altercations or outright fist fights. Supporting a friend who’s under attack is one thing, but coming to the aid of one who’s constantly picking fights is another thing entirely. After one too many Saturday nights like that, I started to decline his offers to get together. It took a while, but he finally got the message and we went our separate ways.

Apart from a few war crazy politicians like Ursula von der Leyen and Liz Truss, a lot of people in Europe are starting to think that America, like him, has become a dangerous liability to have as a friend.


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16 Responses to “Getting out of there while you’ve still got a shirt on your back.”
  1. Marzouk says:

    Well thought out comment and true.


  2. nzpete54 says:

    Indeed: America is being seen more and more as a liability to have around. I suspect the days of its hegemony is coming to an end, and with it the petrol-dollar.
    A good post; I enjoyed reading it.


  3. Helge says:

    How are the United States similar to women? In logic. But the funny thing is that the longer I live, the more I am convinced that there is more common sense in women’s logic than in US logic. The United States may have been a Republic in the beginning, but now it is an oligarchy in the worst sense of the word. And the economy that prevails in the United States can be defined as oligarchic clan-corporate “capitalism”. It’s all sad. There are 4 fatal US mistakes in foreign policy and shitty relations with Russia are one of those mistakes. Although, on the other hand, in order to keep European donkeys in the American stall, the Ukrainian adventure of the Americans fit perfectly. True, the consequences for the Americans will still be fatal in the end. But that’s a topic for another long discussion.

    Liked by 1 person

  4. Russ Wood says:

    As far as Russia is concerned, I think that Sir Terry Pratchett’s ‘Latatin’ quote is apposite: “Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum” .


  5. philjourdan says:

    It is one thing to step in when someone picks a fight with your friend. It is a different matter when the “friend” is the one picking the fight.

    Or put a different way, the difference between a strong leader and a weak leader is who is the tail and who is the dog. Biden is the tail wagging the dog trying to find something to rally America around, and costing America its allies.

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    • Fraizer says:

      The trouble as I see it, is that in times past American foreign policy was relatively stable. Democrat or Republican, there were certain norms that were a given and others could count on. The U.S. has devolved into such a clown show that there is no telling what policy will be next week much less next election cycle or next decade. Without a reliable partner at the negotiating table there is simply no point in negotiating. Without stability there is no way to lead so that other might follow.


  6. Margaret H Smith says:

    Didn’t the Dems want this proxy war all along? Now, like everything else, it’s going wrong. The fascist left is incapable of decent government as money and power are what they want. Is there any hope for the US? They are trying to set up rule by WH Executive Order so that they can bypass Congress completely. Is this possible?

    Liked by 2 people

  7. another ian says:

    “Biden Implies Ukraine May Need to Cede Territory to Russia During Negotiated Settlement
    June 4, 2022 | sundance | 218 Comments”


  8. stock says:

    Pointman, I like most of your points, but think you are missing the biggest point. Biden is controlled by forces that wish to collapse the USA. His gaffes and mistakes are 100% intentional.

    The narrative is literally being written by Hollywood, with feedback from big tech, big social.

    stock out

    Liked by 1 person

  9. another ian says:

    How bad things are in Russia (/s)

    “Interesting Video, A Walk Through a Russian Supermarket
    June 7, 2022 | Sundance | 27 Comments”


  10. another ian says:

    Hi Pointy

    Similar idea. different scenario


    “They Can’t Power A Smartphone For More Than A Day”

    “But the battery scam geniuses would power the grid.”


  11. another ian says:

    Hi Pointy

    Shirt getting thinner?

    “Ukraine Has LOST, And So Have We”


  12. another ian says:

    Fits about here



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