The creeping betrayal of democracy in Australia.

For various reasons, I’ve travelled a lot and had the opportunity to meet and get to know, people from many different countries and cultures. It’s one of the pleasures of life and if you’re a gregarious person, which I am, you find out about each other. Like you and I, they all had their own cultural centric view on the world, and when you get past that and down to the basics of the person, you either like them or not, but that’s just you and that particular person.

That cultural veneer is important though. It reflects the society they were brought up in, and when push comes to shove, it’ll be the ethos of that society that will govern their instinctive reaction in many a situation. In my experience, it’s possible to make some broad but accurate generalisations about people who come from a distinct culture.

The WordPress statistics tell me about a quarter of the readership of this blog are from Australia, and probably a slightly higher percentage of active commenters. Because I’ve learnt a fair amount about Australian politics from reading their media, blogs and comments made here, and also that I consider Australia is in some ways, a special case when it comes to climate alarmism, I thought it about time to do an article on Australia, from that different perspective of someone outside the country.

To echo the words of the poet Housman, I, a stranger and afraid, in a world I never made. Rightly or wrongly, a stranger in a strange land, looks on it with a fresh eye. I’ve made too many good friends down there, not to give it an honest shot, and I hope I’ll have a few left, after what looks to be a lock, stock and two smoking barrels type of article.

I’m sure Australia, like every other country, has its own fair share of eminently disagreeable people, but in general there is a characteristic about them I like; it’s their open-mindedness. They’ve usually an easy outgoing manner, which is why they travel so well and in general, get on with people outside their cultural milieu. They quite often have a roughty toughty exterior but at the same time, after a few minutes into a conversation, you’ll soon find out they’ve read a book or two. It’s that Kipling touch of being equally at ease in the company of princes or paupers. Putting on airs and graces tends to be frowned on and is guaranteed to attract some serious flak. They’re nobody’s fool but at heart they’re a generous bunch, who tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.

It’s a young country, whose early history has many parallels to the opening up of the American West, not least in terms of the hardships of settling a sparsely populated continent. Again, like America but much more recently, it broke out of the mindset of being a colony of an empire, fortunately without having to fight a war of independence, and has its own very strong sense of national identity. By and large, they’re an optimistic and adventurous bunch, which is why they’re usually such good company. Over the years, I’ve had some great laughs with them, but what I’ve always liked about them is that when the going gets a bit sticky, it’s that same tough sense of humour that comes into play.

Looking at the political situation in Australia today, I cannot help but get the feeling that very same easygoing impulse to be fair and decent to other people, has been abused and taken advantage of, to the point where it’s now almost become their undoing.

It’s as if they were approached and asked for an endless series of small and apparently harmless concessions; what could be wrong with subsidising clean energy sources for a few years, how could it possibly hurt if we gave that minority a little bit of regulatory help, wouldn’t it be better if we tweaked the law to close off that injustice, wouldn’t it be the decent thing to protect this special little piece of our beautiful Australian environment, wouldn’t it be a good gesture to share our wonderful country with a few more people, wouldn’t it be better to pass a law to hush up those nasty people saying horrible things we don’t agree with and wouldn’t it be sensible to sacrifice a little bit of our freedom today, just to give our descendants a better life. There’s nothing particularly objectionable about any one of these requests, but the sum total of them all, is something else.

Each of those reasonable little requests was nodded through, or at least allowed to happen, but the net effect has been to slowly and almost imperceptibly, remove a brick at a time from that wall around the common liberties, that should be enjoyed without fear by the free citizenry of any democracy.

The whole flavour of the political establishment shows an arrogance and complete disregard of the wishes of the electorate, in favour of some sort of approval by a well-heeled political chatterati and an unhealthy, overwhelmingly liberal mainstream media. What’s worse, the latter seem to have cosied up to the establishment, and apart from the odd nip, are just its lap-dogs. Indeed, what rebel islands of journalistic dissent there are to an oppressive, politically correct line on almost everything, appear increasingly to be under siege.

A respected journalist at a major newspaper writes an article and ventures the opinion that there are white caucasian Australians, claiming some distant aboriginal antecedents, who’re trading on that for various venial reasons. I don’t know the man personally, you may or may not agree with that opinion, it may be accurate or not, but because a pressure group ganged up on that journalist, whose opinions in general they didn’t agree with, he ended up in a criminal court, facing charges under race discrimination legislation, for simply voicing that opinion.

You may find that unbelievable, but what’s even more unbelievable, is that he was found guilty too. The concept of free speech is now seemingly defined in minute detail by the state, its apparatchiks, the people who know how to exploit increasingly labyrinthine legislation for political ends and a judiciary, which seems to think it exists to work for the government, rather than its more traditional role of protecting the people from things exactly like the government. If Australia doesn’t have the equivalent of The Supreme Court, which exists to protect the constitution and therefore the common man against all-comers, most especially politicians, then it needs to invent one tout suite.

It gets worse though. The government-commissioned Finkelstein Report, came up with a set of proposals that would effectively emasculate any sort of comment on anything, whether on paper or online. Even a blog that got more than 40 hits a day, would fall under the control of what was a government appointed body, who not only didn’t have to give reasons for their decisions, but against whom there wasn’t even a right of appeal. Under that proposed legislation, an active Facebook page would be subject to censorship by a government appointed body.

The whole report was nothing more than a Stalinist wet dream, containing little more than the transcription of the direct input from lobby groups of green and left of centre persuasion, and apart from the Murdoch press amongst others which it was aimed at, there wasn’t a howl of outrage from the mainstream media, because every one of them knew precisely who that proposed legislation was aimed at, and it wasn’t them. Given the provenance of the name Finkelstein, you’d have thought he’d have known better. The first people they came for were the Jews, but I didn’t care, because I wasn’t jewish …

It’s time to start campaigning for the equivalent of America’s First Amendment, the bit of the constitution that prohibits laws curbing freedom of speech in any medium. The alternative is going to be reading samizdat blogs from Australian journalists, domiciled in exotic and extradition-free, offshore places like New Guinea or Taiwan, but no doubt that’ll only last until the Great Firewall of Australia is built, to choke even them off.

There’s been the usual explosive growth in the number, size and power of various regulatory bodies, but to my mind, and uniquely, they’re being used to actively intimidate opponents of the establishment’s policies. A tragic instance of this is the Thompson family, who started an agriculture business in Western Australia, which grew and thrived, until they made the mistake of voicing their opposition to some of the government’s environmental policies.

In short order, there were dozens of new conditions on their licence, some crafted for them specifically. They were served with a blizzard of enforcement orders, by the Department of the Environment and Conservation, which were so onerous, that they not only closed down the business but also precluded the previously supportive banking facilities the concern needed to survive. After a few years of valiant struggle, they were driven out of business and lost their life’s work.

This thuggery by regulation, is open and quite shameless. The government recently warned businesses publically not to blame the new carbon tax for price rises or they’d be forced to consider some new regulations. As threats go, subtle it ain’t. Sure, protect your profit margins and pass onto the consumer the added costs of the tax, but don’t you dare actually say that’s why you’re raising your prices, or we’ll regulate the hell out of you.

There are two main political power blocks; the Labour party and a coalition headed up by the Liberal party. Historically, they reflected the usual choice between the political left and right, but looking at their manifestos today, I can’t see any significant difference between them in policy terms. They’re essentially the same party and it’s nominally positioned leftish of centre. Sure, they spend a lot of time handbagging each other, but you couldn’t get a cigarette paper between their politics. When I say their politics, I mean the politics that suits them, and screw the electorate.

It’s a universal of all true democratic countries, that significant portions of the electorate will always lean towards the left or the right. In Australia, as far as I can see, the right is simply not represented in the political mainstream. Very arguably, there isn’t much of what I’d call the traditional left either. Such an absence of political choice is not a healthy thing for any democracy.

It’s a failure of mainstream politics to provide any real choice, and in so many policy areas, the single available choice, doesn’t appear to cater to the traditional left or right. Mainstream politics has become inward looking, self-serving and disconnected from the common voter.

You don’t have to look very far for graphic examples of this disconnection. Here we are, in the second dip of a double dip recession and for the working man, trying to support a family, these are already not good times. It’s about making pennies meet but at the same time, it’s a bosses’ world; that’s the job and that’s what it pays – take it or leave it, and you know there’s a lot of needy faces in the line behind you looking at that same job. It breaks my heart to think that those people, who most need it at the moment, have no realistic political representation from any of the mainstream parties. Instead, they’ve a bunch of smug professional politicians, most of whom have never held down a real job in their life and whose carbon tax is yet another straw on the back of that already overburdened camel; the family budget.

In the midst of climbing unemployment and what is the worst recession in living memory, we have an administration of a political stripe, which historically represented the people at the bottom of the economic pile, imposing a new pointless tax, which as usual, will hit exactly those people the hardest.

It’s that carbon tax, which makes Australia a special case, when it comes to climate alarmism. Julia Gillard, the current Prime Minister, who also embodies a convincing argument for the practise of mulesing from the corruption viewpoint, made the explicit promise of not introducing such a tax, and after winning the election, did so anyway, nominally to form a ruling coalition with the greens. Australia is now the only large industrial country with such a tax, and already, energy prices and prices in general, are heading skywards. Only an economic ignoramus could possibly think the imposition of a new blanket tax, would have any other effect. Now’s the time to make a couple of new holes in your belt, Australia.

In what was probably the ultimate gesture of contempt towards any electorate, the government smugly assured them that the legislation they’d sneaked in, was enacted in such a way, that it would be impossible to repeal. As with so many things connected to the current administration, time will reveal the truth behind that outright lie.

Over and above the fundamental dishonesty in the way it was introduced, high taxation always scares away inward investment, forces businesses to relocate to more tax efficient countries and ultimately, stifles economic growth. This unilateral act of national economic Seppuku, is proving to be a huge political misjudgment, for both her and the Labor party. I’m beginning to think the only reason why the party hasn’t dumped her and reversed the policy, is the failure to find a credible replacement, who’s prepared to take a large calibre bullet for the party in next year’s elections. Nobody wants that chalice. They’re all biding their time for the inevitable leadership contest after next year’s election disaster.

It’s all a worrying combination of various things and none of them are good; a distant and aloof political establishment that doesn’t listen to voters, the absence of any real political choice à la one of those wonderful People’s Democratic Republics, a compliant and toothless mainstream media, regulatory suppression of dissent, the threat in the wings of draconian censorship by a state appointed star chamber, the actual suppression of reasonable journalistic comment and the absolute scandal of introducing a new tax on everything, when it was an election winning promise to the people not to do that very thing. When you add it all up, it’s starting to come dangerously close to what amounts to an effective breakdown in representative democracy.

It’s massive and oppressive and yet, there’s that quintessential cultural thing about them. When all else have fled, they’ll stand their ground and fight, and they can be plumb dawg mean. There’s still some awkward hold out diggers behind that stockade, who’re blasting away. They give voice to the alternative narratives, that would never see the light of day in the mainstream media. Despite creatures like Finkelstein, they’re around for good and won’t be going away anytime soon, except in the unlikely event that the mainstream media there does some serious manning up.

When a governing party, and the whole of the political establishment, has got that far out of touch with its electorate, they need to be taught a lesson. Australian voters need to put a scar on the body politic, that’ll never be forgotten.

When confronted with a political situation, in which so many fundamental things are seriously wrong, it’s hard to know where to make a start. It’s like walking waist-deep through molasses in Winter. The only way out of such an impossible situation, is not to choose the least obnoxious option on offer, but to actually change that situation. One way or another, this Labor administration is doomed, there will be a different administration after the elections, and it doesn’t actually matter who forms it.

What is important, is to make a strong statement. It may not cure all the ills, but it puts out a marker telling the political establishment that you’ve had enough, and that although the opposition might be forming the new government, having done it once, you can easily do exactly the same to them at the next election. Make an example they’ll never forget, by scaring the living daylights out of them.

What has to be done, is to absolutely destroy the Labor party in next year’s elections. Irrespective of your politics, I repeat, irrespective of your politics, give your vote to the candidate, who looks the most likely to unseat your local Labor candidate. For people, whose political convictions lean towards the left, this piece of tactical voting is the only way I can see of finally getting some genuine left-wing policies on the table. That same counsel applies to those of a rightward conviction.

If the current administration were a Liberal led one, I’d be advocating their complete destruction instead. If that means Australia is going to be a one party state for a few years, so what? Newsflash, it already is in all but name. One of two things will happen to the Labor party as a result of doing that; it will totally reconstruct itself according to the wishes of the electorate or the traditional element will split off, leaving the husk to rot, and form a new party, closer to the ordinary voter and the founding ideals of the old party. Whichever it is, it’s the only way to correct the party and change the stagnant political situation.

After a blistering example like that, the rest of the mainstream parties would also be hurriedly trying to reconnect with the electorate. Suddenly, they’ll all be really listening to you again and voters will have a choice between true left-wing and right-wing policies. This is how Australia could force a return to real representative politics and some genuinely different political choices, and you’re going to need them too, because after a year of the carbon tax, the economy will be in dire need of some big fixing. Things have been allowed to creep along to a point, where you’ve nothing to lose and everything to gain.

In next year’s federal elections, make an example of the ruling Australian Labor Party and its cronies. Burn them right down to the bloody ground.

Don’t leave even a charred stalk.

©Pointman

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65 Responses to “The creeping betrayal of democracy in Australia.”
  1. Petrossa says:

    The most creepy part is that this phenomenon is worldwide. Britain has been islamizised, the EU has been created directly in contradiction with the will of the people. America is a hollow shell of what once was a democracy, it is now truly an idiocracy where the next president is chosen because he has a nicer wife.

    Maybe it’s just how things work out. Civilizations just come and go.

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    • Craig King says:

      What is discouraging is the way the media simply portray the right as swivel eyed extremists. It is consistent enough to make one conclude that the folk in the media were all trained by the same teachers, or school of teachers.

      Civilisations do indeed come and go and they are always destroyed from within.

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      • Petrossa says:

        And they always follow the same pattern: a slow rise till a certain height of civilization, then complacency sets in, followed by a slow and tumultuous falling apart.

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  2. NoFixedAddress says:

    Sadly, you have made a good summation Pointman.

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  3. Blackswan says:

    G’day Pointman

    As coincidence would have it, this week I travelled to Canberra, the National Capital, and yesterday I was sitting in the public gallery of Parliament House watching Question Time – in person.

    I have had a great deal to say about our political climate in recent years and felt a need to actually eyeball these people, watch their behaviour, read their body language when the cameras aren’t trained on them, and generally absorb a real sense of the ambience of this Seat of our Democracy.

    Today I’m a much wiser (and sadder) citizen. My worst fears were realised and my relentless criticism of our politicians in general and our entire System in particular, have proven to be more than justified.

    The thing to understand about the Australian Labor Party (ALP) is that it is nothing more than the Political Arm of the Union Movement. Those unions are riven with corruption and have been for many decades, hence it flows directly into the ALP.

    Voting in Australia is compulsory and our electoral system is based on an ‘honour system’. There is no honour among thieves. To register to vote one can pick up a form from the local post office, fill in the particulars such as name and current address, post it to the Electoral Commission, and you are then enabled to vote in your electorate. On polling day, you attend a polling station, give your name and address to an official who marks you off the list, gives you a ballot paper and you cast a vote which must be marked in pencil, not a pen.

    At no point in the process is one required to prove one’s identity, provide photo ID or in any other respect verify who you claim to be. It’s a long-term running joke in the ALP – “Vote early, vote often”. Labor officials have been convicted of registering their dogs to vote, registering the names of dead people complete with the address of the cemetery, and ‘helpfully’ voting on behalf of migrant people with poor English – “Don’t you worry about a thing, we’ll take care of it for you”.

    It is actually possible to attend a number of polling stations in any electorate and cast multiple votes in a single person’s name, either your own or someone else. There are only random comparative checks of the polling station lists and if Joe Citizen is found to have cast multiple votes, all he has to do is deny it. Without ID required how can they prove it was him? Not knowing for whom those votes were cast, how can they be disallowed? They stand.

    Corruption is endemic and stems from the very root of an Electoral System conceived in the late 19th century when a man’s word was his bond and ‘honour’ meant something. It does not serve us well in the 21st century.

    And that is only the beginning of the story……

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    • Rick says:

      Interesting…what were your observations about what went on when the cams were turned off?

      As to voting, it is the same here in the US. I show up with my ID cards in hand, but the the elderly polling station worker brushes them aside and simply asks for my name. He/she turns to the right page (eventually) in the large book of names, where I scribble my signature and off I go. I could easily call myself anyone if I know what names are in the big book – which I can peruse while signing the page.

      There are a number of battles in the US to require ID, but the defense is always that poor people cannot afford $40 to apply for a driver’s license. Disregard that some states offer ID for free, you just have to show up and get your picture taken.

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      • Blackswan says:

        Rick – if body language is any indicator, all these people had someplace much more interesting where they preferred to be. The most remarkable thing was to watch the majority of them with their iPads, laptops and phones – they never stopped typing, texting, tweeting, scrolling and flicking through their touchscreens.

        It is the Union Movement which controls and funds the Labor Party and it is the factional brawling for control; rewarding some, impeding others that is at the heart of bitter disputes.

        Our current Prime Minister began her political career as a Socialist/Marxist/Fabian student leader, became an industrial lawyer and, in the 1990s, embroiled in major union fraud involving millions of dollars of union funds. Despite investigation by the police fraud squad and documentation proving who was responsible, the entire thing was covered up, no charges laid and many of the players sit in our Parliament today as Ministers of the Crown.

        When several investigative journalists recently revisited this sorry history, the enraged PM personally contacted Media chiefs and had one journo fired, another broadcaster fired for his intention to run an interview with a one-time union man who wanted to see justice done, as well as censuring other news site opinion columnists.

        This led to the Finkelstein report.

        The MSM in Australia, overwhelmingly of the Left, including our taxpayer-funded national broadcaster the ABC, have covered up much of the activities of their political heroes for decades.

        The internet has become our only source of truth in the 21st century and it is doing a remarkable job of exposing jaw-dropping corruption that ordinary folks never dreamed could happen in our country.

        To preserve the status quo it is imperative for this Cabal of Organised Crime to stifle debate and exposure and they will go to any lengths to do so. Average Aussies are too busy earning a living and taking care of their families to give politics more than a passing thought ….. UNTIL it hits them in the hip-pocket nerve and they worry about paying the rent/mortgage and putting food on the table.

        NOW we are paying attention.

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    • Graeme No.3 says:

      In “primitive” countries, i.e. where they still think, this is dealt with by a stamp of ‘indelible’ ink on the back of the hand. It washes off after 2-3 days, & stops double voting.
      It also acts as a signal “I’ve done my civic duty” and encourages others to vote, but then those countries allow citizens a choice about voting.

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      • Petrossa says:

        otoh where voting is free hardly anyone bothers anymore. Over here for the central government they manage 65%, but for local you’re lucky if you get 30% depending on weather.

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  4. Graeme No.3 says:

    Pointman:

    Yes, symptoms described exactly. Causes less so.

    The first(?) mistake was putting the National Capital in Canberra, or anywhere else outside a main city. Partly because Sydney feared domination if the capital was put in the obvious place, Melbourne (where it was for the first 27 years), and partly in imitation of the USA.

    The consequence was a city of public servants, descended from the early opportunists (or those with a strong sense of public responsibility), and claiming the top jobs for many years because no-one else wanted to live in Canberra. It led to a certain mindset in those advising the Ministers of the day.

    That the ‘right’ is fragmented is undeniable. Trying to graft agrarian socialists and big business interests onto a party supposed to represent the ordinary middle class leads to a mess.

    The third problem was the rise of the “political” class. Those who studied politics, law or economics at University, and then became political advisors/union officials while working towards that parliamentary seat. I think it was the father of our current ambassador in Washington who lamented that the Labor Party had changed from recruiting “the cream of the working class to the scum of the middle class”. As for the other side, my late father, as local president of the Liberal branch, lamented after a pre-selection that they’d been offered a choice of 1 marginally adequate, 1 marginally inadequate, 1 plainly insane, and 3 whom he wouldn’t want hired at work for any job more demanding than cleaning the latrines.

    This third problem meant that both parties are now predominately populated by those who’ve gone from school (all too often private or selective) to University (also a fairly closed environment) into political conflict at the nit picking end.

    The fourth problem is the “managerial” one. That is, the politicisation of the public service to try and get those policies the party wants. Thus a strong tendency for careers to falter at any non enthusiasm for some bird brain’s latest wish. Thus the Ministers with no experience of the real world outside politics are guided and supported by those with no comprehension of the real world outside of Canberra. Thus the overwhelming reaction “how dare they defy us”, “we know best”, and “if people would only do (or believe) what they were told, then things would run much smoother”.

    The fifth problem is compulsory voting. Bombarded by propaganda, largely paid from the public purse, people are herded in to vote for Tweedledee or Tweedledum on voting forms carefully designed to disadvantage smaller parties and independents. Time spent handing out How to Vote cards outside a polling booth is something of an education. The number of those not knowing their Electorate, let alone their sub-division, is very high. Nor are the lowly volunteers on both sides necessarily that happy with their own party or candidate. (one opposition claimed that the only reason he stood there every election was the brief chance to give our side’s candidate an earful of sense. When I queried his sides candidates (it was safe electorate for us), the response was that he saw them too often to even try getting any common sense on their part. It was the same Laborite who rushed to the aid of an elderly anti immigration when he felt faint, sat him in his chair with cold drink, and handed out his voting cards as well as his own).

    For all that, less than 80% of Australians make a valid vote. Never a scrutineer myself, I’ve been told that some informal votes had to be deliberate, and that not all the obscene comments on others were made by the barely literate.

    A switch to non compulsory voting is long overdue, but none of the parties want it. The higher their vote, the more public money they get, without the need for a large party membership nor time spent listening to the public. Even the Greens know that their 14-15% is largely a protest vote, and they’d be lucky to get a third of that if people didn’t have to vote for some party.

    I don’t see the Labor Party breaking up, though the infighting for positions at the much reduced trough will be vicious. Should the Liberals fail to deliver some change though, I think that they will disintegrate. Barnaby Joyce and Bob Katter may be regarded as renegades, but Nick Xenophon wins his elections very handsomely.

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    • Blackswan says:

      Graeme – interesting that some valid votes have to be rendered ‘informal’ and discarded. When all the votes cast add up to more than the number of constituents, somebody would smell a rat and the ‘books’ wouldn’t balance would they?

      Question is, who gets to decide which valid votes will be disallowed?

      Corruption of democracy starts right there – in the ballot box.

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    • Guran of Warrnambool says:

      Interesting, Graeme No.3.

      Just on Canberra … I lived there for 19 years (till last year) and worked in central departments (A-G’s, PM&C) for all that time, and this idea that there is some kind of super-public-servant class who never get out is incorrect. At the higher levels of the Australian Public Service, around 60-70% are blow-ins from either State/Territory public service or from private enterprise or academia. Few locals climb the greasy pole to the top. At the lower levels, locals make up around half, with the other half newcomers to the town, looking for a public service career. While the public service is a significant part of the ACT economy, it doesn’t dominate in the way it used to. Sure, the place would fall over without it, but I knew way more non-public servants than public servants. Maybe I’m just discerning. There’s a lot more going on in Canberra than government, and that’s not a “wink-wink, nudge-nudge” comment!

      Anyway, point is that the “ivory tower” view of central bureaucracy might hold true in some individual cases, but is by no means a blanket rule. There’s plenty of fresh thinking going on, by people who are not career public servants. At the mid executive level, a lot of travel goes on to ensure that they do actually meet the stakeholders and understand the problems. They’re not all just polishing the seats of their pants all the time. If anything, today’s woes are more the result of public servants not sticking to their guns, a departure from the early culture you described and, to a point, I agree with your fourth problem. Ministers will always have barrows to push, and over that 19 years I observed a growing tendency for senior public servants to avoid resisting stupid ideas. It really kicked in when Howard removed tenure for departmental secretaries – put on contract, they could now be punished for resistance by being shown the door. Naturally, Ministers should expect that their agendas be carried out by their departments. However, the move to contracts blunted the ability of Secretaries to deliver “frank and fearless advice”. Where I differ from you is in my observation that the people failing to be frank and fearless were less and less often rooted in a public service obstinancy and more often in something resembling reality – both the reality of being in fear of their jobs (and I know some senior managers who fell on swords on principle) and the reality of recognising stupidity when they saw it. I know from bitter personal experience, in the strange little policy corner of the world that I occupied, that some very stupid ministerial brain farts were waved through by my superiors, despite my briefing against them, when,in former years, they would have been opposed tooth and nail. It was depressing to then have to turn around and write the briefs to implement the thing you’d argued last week was the least favourable option. Still, one is called a public “servant” for a reason.

      Finally, on administration. There is something to be said for “professional officials”, as opposed to “professional politicans”. A professional politician is someone who is expert at being elected (the political class you refer to above). A professional official is someone who is expert at governing. In this respect, the best operators I ever saw were John Howard and John Faulkner. Think what you like about either’s politics, but both had the killer combination of principles and administrative nous. They knew what they wanted to do, they could articulate why they wanted to do it, and they understood how to make the system make it happen. I saw a few woeful politicians, but the worst was Rudd, the antithesis of a Howard or Faulkner. Rudd knew that he wanted to do whatever was popular; he couldn’t articulate why; and he had no idea how to run a committee, never mind a government. The ensuing administrative chaos (I have this first-hand from cabinet staff) will eventually go down in the public service as the most wasteful, irrational and exhausting period of decision-making in Australian federal political history.

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      • Graeme No.3 says:

        Guran of Warrnambool says:
        Interesting comments, and somewhat of alternative view. You speak as an insider, whereas I …. I think we could wind up having our own little debate, and boring other readers.

        If there ever was a class of super public servants it was those who battled on in the 1920’s to early 1950’s. Many were driven by a strong sense of service, and weren’t well rewarded financially, but were highly respected. But that was when there were few Departments and fewer public servants (and fewer politicians).
        There seems to have been a change around the late 1960’s when industry (in the broad sense) stopped hiring from the (upper) middle ranks. Equally the traffic the other way was very small.
        After Whitlam the idea seems to have become intrenched that all national problems could only be solved by another Department (or sub-Dept), more people on the payroll, and more rules and regulations.
        Some time in the 1990’s the switch to “expendable” administrators seems to have happened, I wouldn’t put all the blame on Howard. Still, the situation you describe is common in private industry too. The overbearing control freak rules, and you either knuckle under or get out (one way or the other). More I could say but must break off here. Regards.

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      • Pointman says:

        Hello and welcome to the discussion Guran, and thank you for an informed contribution to it.

        The politicisation of government service, which you mentioned, seems to have been a global trend, and not a good one. Politicians come and go, but civil servants abide across the years. It gives them a perspective that a wise politician dips into before making a move.

        In years gone by, the seniors of the civil service always protected one of their own, who’d offered an honest but unwelcome opinion on a policy proposal, and that was understood on all sides. Sadly, that ethos no longer exists and government is the poorer for it.

        @Graeme. Please don’t curtail what looks to be an interesting and very much on topic, discussion.

        Pointman

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      • Guran of Warrnambool says:

        Yep, absolutely an insider, and still too close to use other than a nom-de-plume. Graeme, I’m completely open to alternative perspectives. I was lucky enough to move through some very interesting times amongst some solid, solid policy wonks and operators. However, I’m also an entertainer (literally – I’ve been paid as one!) and I recognise the value of not losing an audience, so whenever, wherever you want to continue the conversation is fine with me.

        Pointman – been watching you (mostly from JoNova, who I know through a friend) for a while, so thanks for the welcome. There are a lot of good people in public service, and the central agencies of Australia’s public service (PM&C, Treasury, Finance and A-Gs) are places that don’t suffer fools on the payroll. They can’t afford to. I’ve watched quality people despair, time and time again as they watch policy idiocy trump sensible governance. The fact that these guys recognise (and note, and file the evidence for) these things gives me assurance that there are still people with their hands on the levers who have a clue what they’re doing.

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      • Graeme No.3 says:

        Guran:
        I am not sure where this lobs in the list. It is my reply to your second comment (and reply to my second comment) if I make myself clear.
        I am not denying that there are fine people in the Public Service, I will even go so far as to say there are fine people in Parliament (just don’t ask for names).
        A come from this as a dedicated believer in C. Northcote Parkinson view on administration (not exclusively directed toward Public Services) in that administrators make work for administrators, and that the system then becomes pre-occupied with its internal problems. See Parkinson’s Law (or better The Law and the Prophets) about the inevitable growth in bureaucracy and the Welfare State until the system collapses. A situation seemingly obvious in Spain, Greece and Portugal right now.
        Two situations: I live in Woodside in the Adelaide Hills. There is a local Army base, a holdover from the second world war. Some years ago, it was announced that the base could be moved elsewhere and the land sold, agitating the locals as around 15% of the town’s economy was at stake. The local member, Alex Downer, could a public meeting and asked people to volunteer for a Consultative Local Committee, and somewhat to my surprise I found myself on it. There were several meetings until the move was called off, possibly because of Downer’s pull in Canberra or possibly because it proved impossible to sell the land. Seeing Downer was interesting, far sharper and more intelligent than portrayed i the media. I came away with the thought that I wouldn’t like to be working for him, as the public servants and military were obviously scared of him. Whether this reflected a desire not to not “rock the boat in public” or a fear of vindictive reprisal I can’t say.
        What I found interesting was that Downer was prepared to pander to public opinion even though he had the safest seat (on the conservative side). The Downers have been local patriarchs (if I can use that term) for generations, and as an aside, I saw more of him as a local member around Woodside that I have seen of his successor, a professional politician.

        After that there were some curious developments. The local sewerage plant had been under capacity for years, without the slightest interest from the State, Federal Governments or the EPA. (For years the attitude has been that the seat is so safe that there is no point in spending money there). Suddenly plans were announced and work commenced to triple its capacity, a surprising increase in that there are building restrictions in the various towns. At the same time the road from Nairne to the army base was up-graded. This could be considered the back road to the base, especially as the up-grade stopped at the main gate.

        Shortly after that it was announced that “asylum seekers” would be housed at the base. There was a furious protest, fuelled by the thought of the camp closing, and an overflowing public protest meeting, addressed by an unconvincing “local” mayor, who had been briefed that day (the truly local Deputy Mayor was outside with the crowd), and the Department Head, who didn’t appear to have been briefed at all. The horse laugh he got when he talked of local hospitals and schools must have warned him, and he stammered a bit side-stepping the question as to whether the locals would get the same level of after hours health care as the interns. (Of the local hospitals, 3 have been converted to nursing homes, 1 sold and now a private nursing home, one offers consultations/examinations, no medical treatment, and the last, Mt. Barker, daytime medical treatment 9 a.m. Monday until approx. 5.30 p.m. Friday. (When a local identity became very seriously ill at 1 a.m. recently, the local ambulance was unavailable, and a volunteer ambulance was called up from 40 km. away. Naturally delayed as they got out of bed, dressed, travelled etc. They were only able, because of regulations, to deliver her to the closed Mt.Barker hospital, fortunately as their ambulance pulled in, so a rapid switch got her to Adelaide, and she survived).

        The local schools were constantly battling efforts to close them, indeed at that time it had been proposed that 5&6 year olds from one town would travel 53 km. to school by bus (changing en-route) and similarly back. You may have see the protests on TV, they seem to have made all the main channels, and the ABC, with repeats at times. I point out of the 6 appearing, 4 were not from Woodside and 1 was (other ?). I feel sorry for Geoff, the sixties man throwing his arms around in protest, always shown without sound for the good reason that he was saying “our local school is being closed down, send the kids up here”. The press made a meal of it, but they often do.

        The point was that this decision had been made without the slightest concern or consultation with the public, and that chap had been thrown in to solve what was surely a political problem, and somehow very badly, if at all, briefed.

        There was no sign that anybody in Canberra knew or cared about the locals, or indeed the “refugees”, as all subsequent attempts to have them become involved with the local sporting clubs were ignored. The attitude was obviously “how dare they protest, there all rednecks”. The local Council community liaison officers resigned because of complete non cooperation on the part of the camp authorities. The opposition died as it became obvious that the camp wasn’t closing. All we ever see if pieces in the local papers, obviously from public relations, about how much money is being injected into the town (largely fiction) or welcome the pupils are in local schools. I have had several times had to reassure people in other towns that the camp is not about to be burnt by white sheeted fiery cross bearers.

        Sorry about the length, but the points I am trying to make is that the politicians don’t care what the public think, so long as spin can reduce the backlash. The public service believes in its right to do what has been decided regardless of the public, and that the public don’t believe either, but will settle for not being disturbed or better on what handout it can get.
        This is not a good basis for a stable civil society.

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  5. Rob Moore says:

    Pointman,
    You have nailed it with this article. Blackswan bought me here as we are all working on michaelsmithnews blog to bring Rough Red to justice for embezzling union funds and screwing my once great country!
    I am going to put a link to this on my justgroundsonline.com site. You have summarised beautifully what we all bang on about -day and night

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  6. Blackswan says:

    This is an example of the Australian MSM’s misinformation campaign seeking to control reaction to the Carbon Tax – it’s relentless and ongoing …..

    “Climate change has moved into a new and dangerous phase. The Arctic has been warming two to three times faster than the rest of the world. In the past few weeks, melting of the Arctic sea ice has accelerated dramatically, reducing the area and volume to levels never previously experienced.

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/fourdegree-rise-demands-90degree-rethink-20120921-26byz.html

    “Adversarial politics and corporate myopia are incapable of addressing life-threatening climate change. The community must go around these barriers and demand leaders take urgent action before the poisoned chalice we pass to our grandchildren becomes even more toxic.”

    Note the backgound of the author ….

    Ian Dunlop chaired the Australian Coal Association 1987-1988 and Australian Greenhouse Office Experts Group on Emissions Trading 1998-2000.

    It seems everyone has his price.

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  7. hillbilly33 says:

    Pointman. Are you sure there’s not some Aussie in you?? Fantastic analysis and Essay of the Year in my book!!

    My great internet friend Black Swan keeps you up to date on what is laughingly called politics in our once great country and like me, keeps chipping away at the dark side!

    My latest “both barrels” at Gillard and cronies this a.m is at Kangaroo Court and begins:-

    The basic facts of the Gillard/Wilson/AWU Fraud Scandal show the matter is not complex in any way.
    The complexity is in the massive money extraction and laundering process involved once Gillard unlawfully enabled Wilson to open bank accounts ,and the wide-spread coverup and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice by so many people and organisations, which is still ongoing!!

    hillbilly33September 22, 2012 at 9:36 am#

    http://www.kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2012/08/26/prima-facie-case-to-charge-julia-gillard-with-concealing-a-serious-indictable-offence-in-awu-scandal/

    You wrote:
    “When all else have fled, they’ll stand their ground and fight, and they can be plumb dawg mean. There’s still some awkward hold out diggers behind that stockade, who’re blasting away.”

    Too durn right we will ! I, along with many others, have lost too many close relatives and friends who’ve fought and died in wars to protect our hard-won freedoms, to even think about letting this sorry morally and ethically corrupt bunch of crooks legislate us back into the Dark Ages!

    Admiral Yamamoto lamented when the US Carrier Fleet dodged Japan’s pre-emptive strike at Pearl Harbour December 7 1941. “I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve”! Julia Gillard and the Unions have also awakened a sleeping generalpublic giant out of a mist of apathy, disinterest and the ever-present Aussie “She’ll be right” attitude.

    I firmly believe that in the very near future, someone in Australia will be able to repeat the famous words of Winston Churchill to the fighter pilots of the R.A.F after the battle of Britain:-
    “Never have so many owed so much to so few”!

    Thank you so much Pointman. You’ve done us proud. May even more power be added to that wonderful pen of yours.

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  8. NoFixedAddress says:

    @BlackSwan

    The one thing that will bring about the demise of this Federal Government of Australia is to rescind the Commonwealth of Australia.

    If Western Australia were to truly secede from the Commonwealth of Australia, as they have threatened from the start, then the Federal Government of Australia would be exposed for the sham it is.

    Strip Real Australia back to everything that excludes the Australian Eastern sea board from the Sunshine Coast down to and including Tasmania that is South of Midland and West of and North of The Great Dividing Range.

    South Eastern South Australia may be a hold out but I believe Real Queensland, Real New South Wales, Real Northern Territory, Real South Australia, Real Victoria and Real Tasmania would follow.

    The Capital of Real Australia could then be located at Alice Springs which, geographically speaking, is about as central to Real Australia as you can get (sorry Real Tasmania but you controlled the island of Australia once).

    Real Australia could then set about expelling non conformists back to the Eastern sea board cesspits which would clean up the scum that infests Agriculture, Defence, Communication, Education, Health, Law and Business that hamper and hinder Real Australians.

    Such a massive Australian geo-political shift back from Federal Australia to Real Australia would naturally have its consequences here and around the world.

    In the local region of Singapore, Indonesia, the Pacific Nations including New Guinea and Fiji, and Malaysia, I think there would be a smile.

    Those countries, along with Hong Kong, Philippines, Burma, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia. would move a little closer because despite the Australian Federal Governments ties to multicultural, imperial demagogues Real Australia has always supported South East Asian countries.

    As witness to that I tell you that the first Japanese ’embassy’ was located in or about Cairns. Chinese have been here from the start.

    New Zealand is a special case. We love to thrash them in sports and they go ape sh*t when they beat us in those sports. I think a lot of the world does not understand the ties that bind the ANZAC’S.

    Just as The USSR devolved into its constituent states, a Western Australian secession would create a rallying cry for States Rights ‘ratbags’ in the USA and Europe.

    More to follow……

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    • NoFixedAddress says:

      i stuffed up with my directions….sorry East and South….not North and West of the Great Dividing Range

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      • Blackswan says:

        G’day NFA,

        This Commonwealth of British Colonies is unique in so many ways. For the West to secede is not a new proposal – it has often been mooted in times of discontent. Do you remember a Tasmanian politician 30 years ago dubbed the Mouth from the South, who advocated the island break away from the Feds and, following the lead of principalities like Monacco, become a self-sufficient tax haven like the Caiman Islands?

        To do so would Constitutionally require the agreement of all States, and that won’t happen though the mainland should be pleased to be rid of us Taswegians as they are always griping about having to subsidise the half million people who live there. Just imagine it – Corporate, Bureaucratic and Political Australia wouldn’t have to travel to the other side of the world to visit all that cash stashed in their secret bank accounts.

        The Feds were prepared to concede the Top End of Oz above the so-called Brisbane Line in WW2 when the Japanese were rampant, incessantly bombing Darwin and Broome and MacArthur had fled the Philippines.

        Today we are in a situation unique in our history, a nation not united against a common enemy, but divided as never before and our enemy is from within.

        Craig King suggested our MSM “were all trained by the same teachers” – how close that is to the truth. Decades ago our Institutions of Learning were seized by the Left and our campuses became hotbeds of Socialist/Marxist/Fabian activism, led by the likes of Julia Gillard.

        It has been too easy for the Climate Lobby to influence policy with all those taxpayer (and entirely unaccountable) cash Grants flooding into any faculty that could tack a spurious Climate link onto any project.

        Add the Unions controlling billions in workers’ dollars in organisations entirely outside the oversight of any Corporate Regulator, and you have a Perfect Storm of malfeasance, nepotism and corruption by politicians, university faculties, statutory bodies, bureaucrats and union thugs.

        Geez, if Tony Soprano had known how easy it was to get ‘his people’ into Government, the Judiciary and the Tax Office, he’d have emigrated to Oz years ago.

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      • NoFixedAddress says:

        @BlackSwan
        I had the opportunity to see the nesting area of Black Swans in Tasmania.

        The bloke that showed me told how they used to collect kerosine tins of swan eggs when he was a kid.

        I hear what you say about Western Australia but it is still our best hope because our constitution has long since been trashed through eastern states courts.

        The fact is that the largest Navel instillation in decrepit Australia is at Garden Island and if Real Australia took over it would become influential in the region.

        And, as an aside, if Kerry Stokes (WA Inc) ever says again that he feels sick because American Defense Personnel are on our soil then we will leave him with his business in China and cancel his controlled companies bandwidth.

        And we can cancel James Packers Western Australian casino license because he supports another Kerry (Stokes).

        Maybe the ‘mendicant’ state of Tasmania can do it.

        Most Real Tasmanians that I have met hate that Island to the North and are more aligned with those other couple of sailing based islands called New Zealand.

        The Australian Labor Party knows how to look after its mates.

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  9. Lesley says:

    Almost everything that you just described, Pointman, could also apply here in Britain. I think it’s endemic to all Western democracies. Certainly as far as policies are concerned there is barely any difference between the political parties. I just hope that beating them at the ballot box will be enough to stop the rot.

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  10. Stephen Cox says:

    The overall analysisi by Pointman is correct and many of the replies are on the money.
    There is however only onr aspect missed by all compared to the Dark days of World War Two many may think that greed aka Gordon Gecko would potentially derail the 300 Spartans standing at the pass fighting the Socialist treason.
    But those who think so are often unaware similar people of little moral compass with thoughts only for the now and here have existed since time immemorial and we will whatever the cost overcome these treacherous elements
    However the real enemy is not within but aided and abetted by those within it comes not just in the form of the treacherous United Nations but almost every Non Government Organisation and Foundation across the Earth.
    Many of Mukltinational Business hierachy are also allied to and taking advantage of such treachery
    their ilk at for instance easily found among places such as the Swiss based IETA (International Emmissions Trading Association) whose headquartersa are in Geneva,
    The Brussels based ‘Crisis Group International’ run by the likes of Australia’s Gareth Evans and the infamous pairing few are aware of George Soros and Mohhamid El Baradei (Once the UN chief Atomic Watchdog frontman).

    There are many across this planet and it is not just Australian Sovreignity under attack but the Sovereign Rights of all across this planet via so many methods they cannot all be covered here,But once aware searching will reveal more every time.

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  11. Peter Hannan says:

    Hi Pointman, this is the first time I participate in your blog. I like what you do, in general (the connection is via WUWT). Your comments on Australia, as you say, from an outsider’s perspective, are interesting. I’m British, and have a certain sympathy and admiration for our cousins down under. OK, current policies there are motivated by climate alarmism, and perhaps by other ulterior motives; but, speaking as a Brit, I have more faith in Australians’ capacity to detect BS and deal with things directly, than I do in that of my own country’s citizens.

    I think it’s unhelpful to use terms such as ‘Stalinist’ in this context; in general, name-calling and labels don’t help a reasoned discussion.

    Australia is still a democracy: things can change.

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    • Blackswan says:

      Hello Peter,

      “Labels” are not always a case of “name-calling”. Sometimes it’s a matter of Truth, not using the ‘soft’ language of the politically correct and euphemisms. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck and we know we aren’t discussing nightingales.

      The Labor Party came to power here in 2007 and in 5 short years we have been subjected to over 18,000 items of new Regulation – never debated in the Parliament – just introduced as a Control measure in every facet of our lives.

      The Pointman explains the implications and dangers of such Socialist measures ….

      Legislation by regulation.

      It’s well worth your while to check out this and many other interesting perspectives on this site – very enlightening to consider another point of view.

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    • Blackswan says:

      An update for you Peter,

      This is the latest offering from our Socialist Union-dominated administration ……

      “BOSSES will have to roster jobs around workers’ social lives and check that staff who yawn or daydream aren’t too tired to work safely.”

      http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/safe-work-australia-plan-to-cut-risk-for-tired-workers-puts-employers-offside/story-e6freuy9-1226489920654

      “Employers are furious they will be turned into the “yawn police” under Safe Work Australia’s draft code of practice for workplace fatigue.

      The government agency’s checklist for employers to spot worker fatigue includes headaches, daydreaming, constant yawning, low motivation and moodiness.”

      Our current Industrial Relations Minister was the one-time live-in boyfriend of our current Attorney General. He went on to marry someone else and have a family but he dumped them when he got another woman pregnant and he married her instead and began another family.

      It so happens that his current mother-in-law is our current Governor General, HM the Queen’s representative in Australia, who gets to sign all our Legislation and Regulation into Law and who was appointed by a previous Labor PM after, as State Governor, she refused to convene a Royal Commission into that PM’s act of shredding legal documents required for a court action in the systematic rape and abuse of minors in State Care.

      There are currently hundreds of such documents signed by only two people – the Minister and his mother-in-law – which currently control numerous aspects of our everyday lives. Such Regulations are not debated in Parliament by our elected representatives.

      This is not Democracy administered by people of honour and integrity.

      This is an incestuous Cabal of Socialist/Marxist Unionists and their lawyers who have rutted their way to political prominence, entirely funded by the compulsory union dues and retirement savings of the hapless workers of this country.

      There are probably other ways to describe our current political landscape, but democratic isn’t one of them.

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  12. Pointman says:

    The laws of God, the laws of man,
    He may keep that will and can;
    Not I: let God and man decree
    Laws for themselves and not for me;

    And if my ways are not as theirs
    Let them mind their own affairs.
    Their deeds I judge and much condemn,
    Yet when did I make laws for them?

    Please yourselves, say I , and they
    Need only look the other way.
    But no, they will not; they must still
    Wrest their neighbour to their will,

    And make me dance as they desire
    With jail and gallows and hell-fire.
    And how am I to face the odds
    Of man’s bedevilment and God’s?

    I, a stranger and afraid
    In a world I never made.

    They will be master, right or wrong;
    Though both are foolish, both are strong.
    And since, my soul, we cannot fly
    To Saturn nor to Mercury,

    Keep we must, if keep we can,
    These foreign laws of God and man.

    -A.E. Housman

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  13. Matt says:

    Stunning piece. Appalling state of affairs. Change a few details and could be UK in a short time.
    ******That same council applies to those of a rightward conviction.******
    It’s counsel by the way.

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  14. A Lovell says:

    A bit off thread here, but re ‘Climate Prat of the year’. Hilary on her ‘The View From Here’ site has an amusing poll going if anyone wants to vote. I mentioned your poll in her comments. I like a bit of reprocity!

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  15. hillbilly33 says:

    Hi Pointy. I think Black Swan and No Fixed ddress will love this one which came to me by email.

    DIVORCE AGREEMENT

    THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY WELL PUT AND I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE IT’S BY A YOUNG PERSON, A STUDENT!!! WHATEVER HE RUNS FOR, I’LL VOTE FOR HIM.

    Dear Australian Laborites, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Gillard, et al:

    We have stuck together since the late 1950’s for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce.

    I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.

    Our two ideological sides of Australia cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way

    Here is a model separation agreement:

    Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

    We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the ACTU, the Fabian Society and every member of Emily’s List. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops and the military. We’ll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar and biodiesel. You can keep the ABC left wingers (particularly Kerry O’Brien) and Bob Brown. You are, however, responsible for finding an electric vehicle big enough to move
    all of them.

    We’ll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Woolworths and the Stock Exchange. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, dole bludgers, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies and boat people. We’ll keep the budgie smuggling, bike riding, volunteer firemen and lifesavers, greedy CEOs and rednecks. We’ll keep the Bibles and the churches and give you SBS and the Greens.

    You can make peace with Iran, Palestine and the Taliban and we’ll retain the right to stand up and fight when threatened. You can have the greenies and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.

    We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness and Penny Wong. You can also have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill

    We’ll keep the 4WDs, utes and V8s. You can take every hybrid hatchback you can find.

    We’ll keep “Waltzing Matilda” and our National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to keep in tune with Peter Garrett as he sings “Imagine”, “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing”, “Kum Ba Ya”, “We Are The World” and his recent big solo hit “Beds and Batts are Burning.”

    We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it so often offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.

    Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded conservative Australians and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,
    John Wall
    Australian Law Student

    PS. Also, please take Lindsey Tanner, Wayne Swan, Alan Griffin, John Faulkner, Kevin Rudd, and Jenny Macklin with you.

    PSS. And you won’t have to press 1 for English when you call our country

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  16. Twodogs says:

    Lightbulb moment!

    A way around the Finkelstein report.

    If we can’t join the media to criticise the government, then the solution is to start a political party. Maybe the public will wake up when Gillard tries to outlaw a political party?

    What made this click was the mention that the Coalition are not sufficiently interested in fighting the totalitarianism ramped up “coincidentally” with the arrival as Gillard as PM.

    Maybe I’ll start a blog calling for a political movement to be formed as an eventual party to fight corruption and totalitarianism. Who’s with me?

    Oh, and Pointman, we do have a constitutional court – the High Court of Australia. It is higher than the states’ Supreme Courts, and rules on constitutional challenges. I hear it is corrupt, so it’s perhaps only a constitutional court in theory.

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    • Blackswan says:

      Twodogs – do you remember a Liberal candidate in the 1990s who was expelled from the Party when she said that skin colour was no indicator of disadvantage and wanted all Australians treated the same, not differently because of their race?

      She won her seat in Parliament as an Independent. Her name is Pauline Hanson and this is her maiden speech …..

      http://www.freestatevoice.com.au/politics/item/642-pauline-hansons-maiden-speech-in-parliament-10th-september-1996

      The groundswell of support she engendered really terrified the two major Parties and they BOTH set about destroying her. At the time, Tony Abbott was Prime Minister Howard’s head-kicker and between him and Labor’s Peter Beattie, they had her new ‘One Nation’ Political Party destroyed and she was sent to prison on spurious electoral fraud claims.

      She was eventually released and the charges found to be baseless, and it hasn’t stopped her making other efforts at election to Public Office. But the damage has been done and she remains an object of MSM scorn.

      She didn’t always make smart choices in her selection of ‘advisers’, mostly self-serving cretins who saw opportunities for their own advancement, but her original motives struck a chord with communities who had despaired of their concerns ever being heard by the major Parties.

      Any new Party whose raison d’etre was to expose Government corruption would not last a nano-second. There are very few Pauline Hansons in our midst with the integrity and intestinal fortitude to take on our corrupt Establishment – and they know it.

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      • mlpinaus says:

        “Any new Party whose raison d’etre was to expose Government corruption would not last a nano-second. There are very few Pauline Hansons in our midst with the integrity and intestinal fortitude to take on our corrupt Establishment – and they know it.”
        Afraid that you are correct ‘Swan. Guess I was too busy at the time to notice, but I did fall for the confected, read MSM, attack on One Nation at the time. Oh Dear……
        Marcus

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      • meltemian says:

        Swanny, Thank you for that link, what a great speech. I’m ashamed to say I’d never heard of Pauline Hanson before. I just wish there were 100 more like her, too many for the PTB to handle.

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      • uninformedLuddite says:

        I actually liked Pauline. It is so rare in politics to find someone/anyone who is prepared to actually say what they believe without any form of PC constraint.

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  17. Blackswan says:

    Hello Mel,
    Not surprising that you haven’t heard of Pauline – the MSM kept it that way, although Aussies were told her comments had caused “diplomatic outrage” with our Asian neighbours.

    She suffered the kind of persecution that no popularly elected MP has ever encountered (to my knowledge) anywhere in the world. Her speaking engagement venues were cancelled at the last minute (as they did when Lord Monckton visited here) and the rent-a-crowd mob turned up creating riots and destruction any place she tried to speak.

    She was not a highly educated person – a suburban mother and small businesswoman – but when the locals came into her fish & chip shop, their lunch came wrapped in some forthright opinions and they loved her for it, electing her to Parliament when the Libs expelled her from the Party for ‘racism’.

    For the Establishment, nothing short of a prison term would do as anybody with such a record could never again stand for Public Office – that was the only way they could defray the rising popularity of her free-speech ethos.

    The message was clear – toe the line and shut your mouth or we’ll destroy you.

    The slide into our current Marxist utopia has been decades in the making, and won’t be overcome any time soon.

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  18. Pat K says:

    The inevitable decline of democracy as the voters vote themselves an ever increasing share of handouts from the government. Everyone is on the make. It ain’t gonna change soon as even relatively well off citizens now have their noses in the welfare trough. So called “conservative” parties (thought the Liberal Party was never a truly conservative party) find it impossible to rescind “progressive” measures when in power. So the polity of the country shifts inexorably to the left. Policies that would have been labelled communist thirty years ago are now the middle ground and securely entrenched regardless of who forms the government. The current doomed government is busying itself in its last days introducing further “reforms” most of which will be impossible to undo.

    Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate

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    • Blackswan says:

      Pat K – “the relatively well off citizens” got access to the trough in the 90s when Labor’s Paul Keating decided to CONVERT what had been merely a line entry for a family tax deduction in a breadwinner’s Income Tax Return into some cash-in-hand for the ‘little woman’, the stay-at-home full-time wife and mother.

      Such women were getting pretty pissed-off at the mounting tax concessions and subsidised child-care fees for mothers in the paid workforce, while there was little recognition for those who chose to become full-time homemakers and take care of their own families themselves.

      And so it began.

      A little tweak here, a pinch of that there, and before you know it families who once had simple ‘dependant spouse’ deductions on their taxable income, have now been labelled as Welfare Recipients, earning the ire of those on less or zero incomes – a very neat move in the ‘class warfare’ intentions of the Marxist/Socialists.

      Before you know it, with disadvantaged people clamouring for those with higher incomes to be banished from such financial recognition of their family’s needs/expenses, such ‘benefits’ will come to an end and the Govt can say “We listen to the people” and respond.

      Keating was always harping about the Big Picture. They are a patient lot and understand that it will take a decade or two or three to implement their strategies, but then that’s what Fabians do. Named for their hero Fabius, a master at the tactics of a ‘war of attrition’ and seige, he would starve his conquests into submission.

      Who would have thought that a gungho Marxist student activist, whose parents were from the coal mines of Wales and both members of the Communist Party would, within 30 years, become the first female PM and get to strut the world stage, having implemented policies and strategies that she was always told could never happen in this country.

      We all have a lot to learn about how these people operate, and the sooner the better.

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  19. Jazza says:

    Thank you Pointman
    And you didn’t even have to visit the simplest of the crook scandals bedevilling the Labor party,which is the union mafia/wolf in a sheep’s skin
    (www.michaelsmithnews.com)
    I assure you I just wish I had more than one vote to toss that crook and the whole coterie of self servers and crooks out on their arses!
    Cheers

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  20. Pointman says:

    Hello and welcome Craig King, Rob Moore, Stephen Cox, Matt, and Pat K, enjoy yourself here.

    Obviously, there’s been a lot of commentary and I’d have to say, I’ve picked up a lot more info on Aussie politics. Certainly, judging from some of the links posted, political corruption is a problem, but from the self-serving style of the politics, I suppose it’s to be expected, though some of the examples are shameless.

    @Graeme No 3. Agreed, the piece is light on reasons, and your comment supplied some of them. Your point about a professional political class, appears to be a worldwide proplem. I touched on it briefly in a piece on the American Tea Party, and I think in bears heavily on their indifference to the hardships caused to working families by their policies.

    America is throwing another Tea party.

    I’m optimistic and think a change is on the way, and the fracture point will be next year’s election. As HillBilly said, a sleeping giant is awakening.

    Pointman

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  21. meltemian says:

    Check out Richard North’s blog for a suggested new UK ‘Bill of Rights’. He and some of the people who comment on EURef’ have been meeting to create a way of taking power back to the people. We’re all hopeful there will be a way to get this acted upon and return government back to the grass roots. Bottom-up instead of Top-down
    .
    http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=83181

    Check out Referism too for an over-view.

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  22. Reblogged this on contrary2belief and commented:
    Pointman: Optimist.

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  23. Blackswan says:

    The following example is not a “creeping betrayal of democracy in Australia” – it is a galloping canker that is changing who we are as a people ……

    “Six weeks ago, the leader of the Party for Freedom (PVV), which until recently held the balance of power in the Dutch parliament, applied for a visa to visit Australia. His name is Geert Wilders.

    Members of his staff and security detail were granted visas after three days. Wilders received nothing. He is still waiting. The Dutch media are waiting for the insult the Gillard government appears to be preparing for a member of the Netherlands’ parliament.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/visa-insult-a-betrayal-of-liberalism-20120930-26tk2.html

    “This confirms, as if any more confirmation were needed, the gutlessness that lies at the core of Australia’s multibillion-dollar debacle on border security, where the thin blue line on border integrity has been turned into a wide yellow streak.”

    Bravo! Paul Sheehan – this is an issue that the rest of the sycophantic MSM wouldn’t touch with a forty foot Dutch canal barge pole.

    There is obviously an agenda at play here – an agenda most Australians are only beginning to comprehend.

    It’s about a captive Labor constituency – an ever-so-grateful constituency that began 40 years ago when the concept of multiculturalism was sold on humanitarian grounds, when the emphasis shifted from integration and assimilation of newcomers to the separatist policies that have spawned ghettos, hostilities and race riots.

    Our post-WW2 European immigration and our acceptance of post-Vietnam ‘boat people’ were held as shining examples of our great cultural ‘melting pot’ of community co-operation and mutual respect.

    Today that melting pot has turned into a seething cauldron of angst, violence and bitter recrimination. Nobody is more affronted by these policies than the Europeans who came here from their war-torn countries, often without a word of English, whose foreign credentials were not recognised and had to be worked for again, who taught Aussies the true meaning of hard work and who now recognise the “creeping betrayal” of our democracy – they saw it bring their own homelands to ruins.

    There is a difference between being asleep-at-the-wheel and being utterly comatose. It’s about time Australians woke from our slumbers.

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  24. Stephen Cox says:

    Creeping betrayal of Democracy worldwide more like it,Democracy is a Sacred Trust that has been abused by MultiNational Business,The Bankers and Politicians and is actively being used as a weapon of takeover By the Islamic Idealogy for it partakes in politics and therefore ruiles itself out as a religion in doing so.

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    • Blackswan says:

      SC – Not only does Islamic Ideology permeate politics, it also holds sway in the Finance sector as well.

      Banks and financial institutions offer ‘the faithful’ special deals on non-usury home/business loans and will cancel credit card interest for late payment if the customer threatens to close the account. These arrangements are not available to “infidels”.

      Meanwhile, the rest of us struggle with variable interest rates completely oblivious to the fact that any other option was ever available to homebuyers or small business, all based on one’s religious beliefs and acumen for horsetrading.

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  25. Rob Moore says:

    I put this comment on my site yesterday re getting traction and someone in authority to do what they are paid and bound to do(if they aren’t corrupt)-

    What beats us all is the time and inactivity and the emotional outrage and we all need hope or a light at the end of the tunnel.
    This is why fatigue has hit us all. The easy part is to know who, what, and why we are being screwed.So far in my life – I have learnt that you have to make things happen and it is always a power of wills (Code for fear -as in you need the person you are trying to reason with to have his balls in a vice controlled by you to get their undivided attention).
    imo This is the link that we all seek. If the media weren’t on the take due to advertising contractual threats ( think govt advert is worth millions to them all)- they -via a few good journalists would shake the average joe out of their ipod slumber to demand action. I look at the keen contributors on here now and most are relatively new (less than a year). I find myself agreeing with most stuff but have said my bit so often – I bore myself even. I’m not religeous and don’t subscribe to the good guys will win in the end. We have one crack at it and decent people with half a brain know what is right from wrong.
    I used to tell Peter Spencer( 52 day hunger striker for his property rights that were stripped for carbon credits)- timing and tactics will win the day – not whether you get the last pallet of govt fabrication documents when you have more than a semi load now. He won his appeal in the High Court 2 years ago. I personally got Peter King QC the AFFF money to run the case and with that comes pressure to perform!. The old probono set up that meant we’ll do a bit every now and then when it suits us- didn’t suit me one bit. I tried to apply pressure where it was needed but was spurned for my efforts inspite of saving the whole set up a couple of times. There is no doubt in my mind that with the carbon “discovery” evidence- Jaques and CATA to help fundraise and a secure audited tax deductable account for big business to pay the legals (Clive Palmer was begging for a case to be launched in April this year). Peter King was going to announce it through 2GB( bit like when the convoy was forming up) ALL the detail was going to come through ” just grounds” site as I had sole control and GILLARD would not have had to lie as-

    ” there will be no carbon tax in a govt I lead”
    The High Court would have put an injunction on the 4 CFI bills and the 18 Clean energy bills UNTIL they worked out whether the kyoto carbon units that the Govt is using were stolen goods!!
    ie the basis of the Spencer Federal Court hearing.
    How it all got stuffed up- was it deliberate???-I will probably never know. I do know that the Aust Govt Solicitor had his balls in the vice as the evidence is overwhelming from ALL sides of politics.
    I find it all very depressing but I won’t give up while I have another mate getting the vice in position(have to be for her nose I guess) His name is Michael Smith and his work is here-

    http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/

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  26. Rod says:

    I’m pretty late to the discussion and agree that we (Oz) are in a declining position. There may not be much difference between the two major parties in policy, but there is definitely a difference in fiscal responsibility. The conservative coalition has tended to have lower deficits over the years, and more recently has had good surpluses. The bank built up be the last conservative government (Howard’s) was thrown away in twelve months by the lefties is badly conceived and badly managed simulus packages (ceiling insulation scheme where shoddy work led to electrical fires and deaths, “old” insulation was thrown out and replaced by 100% subsidised stuff, etc, and the school renewal program where schools got new buildings of some departmental choosing instead of what they would have chosen themselves and withour any regard to budgets and accountablility (builders got away with blue murder and the minister ‘responsible’ became prime minister!!))
    I have to disagree with Blackswan on the veracity of the voting system; there will always be some who rort the system, but the Commonwealth Electoral Commision (and the various State commisions) do make checks on the accuracy of the rolls and they do follow up apparent multiple votes of the same person. The current rolls are scannable and are all submitted to the process that details but names marked of multiple times and names not marked of at all. This occurs for both Fedarl and State elections (and in Victoria, at least, for municipal elections as well.) I was involved for over forty years in elections at all levels (the three tiers of government and in postal and attendance elections and in various positions from lowly poll clerk to polling place manager to electoral office post election day work. As it happens, I cannot recall having found the same name marked off of two separate rolls without a good and proven explanation – but I don’t deny that it happens.
    My biggest concern in managing a polling centre has been the number of people who move around the country without bothering to enrol when they move and who don’t care that they can’t vote because their names are not on the local roll, don’t know or care where they were last enrolled and don’t care if they don’t get a vote; apathetic and pathetic! That’s part of the reason we are left with a substandard parliament.

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    • Blackswan says:

      G’day Rod,

      I stand corrected on your greater knowledge and experience of the Electoral System, but I suppose it depends on where the polling place happens to be – some are more modernised but others in more rural areas are yet to catch up.

      However, without photo ID to either enrol or vote, how can any investigation prove anything? If a person denies having lodged more than one vote, on what basis could it be proven otherwise? And more importantly, how could any of those excessive votes be discounted as who would know for whom such votes were cast?

      When many marginal electorates are decided on a handful of votes, and with our current minority government hanging by the slimmest of threads, they will have no compunction about doing “whatever it takes” to pull a rabbit or two out of a hat at the next election.

      After the torrid time we’ve had this week and with the MSM finally picking up the story of the PM’s questionable background, the coming months are going to get “down and dirty” as she fights for her political survival. In fact, she’ll be lucky not to end up in the slammer …..

      http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard-gave-support-for-union-groups-registration-20121012-27ip6.html

      … and if these blokes have anything to do with it, that just where she’ll go.

      http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/the-men-behind-pms-hellish-week-20120825-24t6y.html

      We live in hope.

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      • Rod says:

        You might remember back in the 70’s the Richmond Vic council election had lots of irregularities – dead people voting and multiple votes by many and if I remember correctly a fair bit of strong arm tactics by some of the candidates/their supporters. A good example of things going wrong when lefties are left to their own devices! and proof that the system is not perfect. But in a close election there are safeguards like recounts and the Court of Disputed Returns (or various administrative tribunals) which could set aside an election if irregularities were of such a magnitude that the true result would be in doubt.

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  27. Blackswan says:

    Pointman,

    May I post a comment here written by our friend Hillbilly33 on the parlous state of the corruption in our current government. It reflects the feelings of many of us and is worthy of a wider readership ……

    “I make no apologies for continually stressing this pivotal point. Julia Gillard chose to enter an intimate and ongoing relationship with Bruce Wilson, a married man with two young sons, reprehensible enough on a moral basis and hardly a good reflection on her employers, the equity partners of Slater & Gordon. But in the context of this whole fraud matter, her breaches of ethics and duty of care to her client, her employers and the wilful contravening of the Rules of Practice and her obligations under which she was granted her Practising Certificate, shows a person with serious character and/or psychological flaws.

    These actions show she had no respect for either her profession, her fellow practitioners, her clients, her employers or the general public in regard to their expectations of the behaviour of someone in a supposedly honourable calling!

    That she deliberately kept those matters secret from all those people for so many years show she had no scruples at all, either morally or professionally.

    That in the face of all the evidence to the contrary, and not a shred of evidence she can put forward in her defence, to still maintain she acted ethically and did nothing wrong, suggests she is either completely delusional with severe psychological problems or just a born liar who has never known the meaning of truth.

    The real tragedy for her and Australia is that so many people who should have known better, have not only encouraged her delusions but actually praised her for continuing to expound them, and the bullying, remorseless manner she uses to do so. This site shows that many have not assisted in this and are appalled at the fall in standards in so many areas.

    Are those in the truly pathetic largely sycophantic Canberra Press Gallery, ABC, Mainstream Media, all journalistic pursuits, Academia, Legal endeavours, Unions, Law Schools, Universities, Professional Associations etc., etc. so ideologically bound that they have become deliberately blind to the endemic and obvious corruption rife within Australia today?

    This is far beyond politics, and we as a people face one of the most critical decisions this nation has ever faced as to the kind of future we want our children and grandchildren to inherit. Do we, like Julia Gillard did, choose the dark side which made subsequent breaches easy for her, or do we say enough is enough. It stops here and now and we start the long road back to truth and integrity!

    Thank you Hillbilly.

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  28. uninformedLuddite says:

    I am guessing that most here are aware of the deep ties between the ALP and the Fabian Society. For those that aren’t a link.

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  29. Colin says:

    I thought you might find this of interest. http://danielpocock.com/winning-at-any-cost

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